New York Giants: Landon Collins Claims Gettleman Doesn’t Want Vocal Players

New York Giants, Landon Collins

The New York Giants may have moved on from safety Landon Collins, but it’s not quite clear if Collins has moved on from the Giants yet. Since joining the Washington Redskins, Collins has become something of a source for inside information on what the Giants organization was like during his time there. Collins has spoken in the past weeks about feeling heartbroken that the team let him go, and also claims that the locker room loved fellow departed player Odell Beckham Jr.

More recently, Collins spoke to ESPN and talked about the departure of both players, as well as others who were sent away following Dave Gettleman’s appointment as General Manager.

According to Collins, the reasons why he and others were traded or allowed to leave in free agency weren’t just on the field ones. Rather, it may have had something to do with certain players being too outspoken for the front office’s tastes.

“I know with myself, [Harrison], Odell, [Vernon], all we wanted to do was win, and we spoke up because we had to get them to listen to us. We had to get them to get us winning pieces to help us at least be contenders. I think we were too vocal, and that platform was bigger than the Giants, you know, and our words stood out more,” Collins told ESPN.

Collins claimed that the team didn’t want them to bring media attention to the Giants’ situation because it wasn’t ‘good media.’

“I wish he’d say something. Try to. I mean, he had come around, shake your hand, say ‘Good job, big fella,’ or something like that. But honestly, talking to him, or saying anything, having a full conversation or anything with him, nothing,” Collins said about GM Dave Gettleman.

“I mean, he basically … I don’t know him, he don’t know me, that’s kind of how it just kind of was.”

Gettleman definitely didn’t take much time to start cleaning house after getting the job with the Giants, but it remains to be seen whether much has been cleaned up at all. Players such as Beckham, Collins, Damon Harrison, and Olivier Vernon are now gone, and some of those trades can be considered better than others, but the fact of the matter is that the Giants are now left with an entirely unproven group and have removed many of the cornerstones from the team’s most recent playoffs appearance.

Gettleman will look good if the Giants can bounce back to that standard within the next couple of years, but if the results continue as they have for the past two seasons, it might just end up looking like having more vocal players is a better alternative to the current state of things.

 

New York Giants: Players Loved Beckham, Claims Landon Collins

The departure of Landon Collins made waves during this offseason for the New York Giants, and that departure is something that Collins recently spoke to NJ Advance Media about. However, it didn’t end up being the biggest departure of the offseason. That title would have to go to the Odell Beckham Jr. trade which sent the Giants’ top receiver to Cleveland in exchange for Jabrill Peppers and two draft picks, both of which would be spent improving the defense in the draft.

There’s still a hot debate around the exact reason why the Giants moved on from Beckham, whether that’s character concerns or a lack of confidence in Beckham’s ability on the field or something else. There’s been an ongoing argument about whether Beckham’s character is a good thing or a bad thing for the Giants, but it’s hard to tell which side has the truth without having hard evidence in either direction.

Collins, however, would naturally be knowledgeable about the Giants locker room, and that locker room’s opinion of Beckham is something that he spoke about with NJ Advance Media.

“We loved him. Odell is my brother. He is not that kind of guy, or what people think he is about or what the organization did. I don’t know why,” Collins said about Beckham.

But while Collins did say that Beckham was loved by the players, he also stated that the team felt like Beckham was a problem.

“Was I shocked with Odell? No, honestly, not. They felt like he was a problem the whole time. Ever since Odell stepped into the league with them, they felt like he was a problem, I felt like from the outside.”

It’s impossible to know completely whether or not Collins is right with his assumption, but a player like Collins who is no longer connected to the organization has less motivation to offer false but non controversial statements.

But it’s also too late for Collins’ statements to change anything, with both players being on other teams now and the Giants heading in a completely different direction that involves replacing Beckham with three new defensive additions that came about as a result of his trade.

Will Jabrill Peppers, Dexter Lawrence, and Oshane Ximines be able to make up for the lost production from Beckham? That’s just something we’ll have to wait for this season to see.

Landon Collins Speaks Out About Desire To Stay With New York Giants

One of the big departures this offseason for the New York Giants was undoubtedly that of Landon Collins, one of the team’s leading tacklers in addition to being a defensive captain and key member of the secondary. Replacing Collins isn’t an easy job and it’s easy to wonder if the new safety duo for the Giants, Jabrill Peppers and Antoine Bethea, will be able to fill the shadow that they find themselves in.

There’s been various theories for why the Giants let Collins walk away in free agency. Some might claim that it was purely a financial move while others say that the Giants likely didn’t want to risk paying a player who has suffered from injuries, or that Collins is no longer a good scheme fit for the Giants.

However, we haven’t heard too much directly from Collins himself about his feelings on the exit. That’s changed now, with Collins talking to NJ Advance Media about his feelings on leaving the team.

“I’m starting a new chapter and I’m on a good team. When I left the Giants, I was kind of heartbroken. I loved the Giants. When I started there, I wanted to finish there. I wanted to be one of those guys to finish his career on one team. They didn’t give me the opportunity to do that. It’s a business. I can’t do anything about that,” Collins said.

It’s common knowledge that the Giants didn’t do much in contract negotiations with Collins, leading to the belief for most of the 2018 season that the team was going to use the franchise tag on him. However, time passed after the window to use the franchise tag opened and nothing happened, and soon enough, that window had closed and the Giants hadn’t made the move.

But it’s also common knowledge now that Landon Collins wouldn’t have played under the franchise tag, contradicting earlier statements, which could have been a large part of the reason why it was never used on him.

Regardless, Collins is now on the Redskins and the New York Giants have moved on to other players at the position, no matter what the actual reasons behind those decisions were. Collins claims that the Giants never tried to sign him, but other factors such as the large amount that Collins and the Redskins agreed to as well as Collins’ desire to not play under the franchise tag make it seem like that might not be the fault of the Giants organization.

New York Giants: Landon Collins Quickly Turns On Former Head Coach

New York Giants, Landon Collins

Landon Collins is no longer a member of the New York Giants. So it might seem strange to see Collins still making headlines related to the team. However, when a former player makes comments about their old organization and coaching staff, it sometimes becomes a story. Especially when said former player has moved to a division rival and will face the Giants two times per year in division play.

In this case, Collins isn’t talking about someone from the current Giants’ organization, but a legend of the franchise that many fans will still defend to this day. Most Giants fans didn’t hold ill will against Landon Collins after the Giants let him walk and he signed a massive contract with the Washington Redskins, but one way to get rid of that remaining goodwill is to trash talk Tom Coughlin.

But that’s exactly what Collins decided to do while attempting to recruit star cornerback Jalen Ramsey to his new team.

The tweet from Collins references the Jaguars’ Vice President, who of course, is Coughlin. It is normal, of course, for a player to try to recruit others to his team, but name dropping Coughlin in the tweet might just rub Collins’ old team the wrong way.

Coughlin and Collins have about a year’s worth of history together, with Coughlin serving as the head coach of the team during the 2015 season when Collins was drafted. That turned out to be the season immediately before Coughlin was replaced by the far less successful Ben McAdoo. There’s still a number of fans that wish the Giants could have given Coughlin more time, after the poor performances of his successors up until this point.

Of course, Coughlin isn’t with the Giants anymore and neither is Collins, but it’s an interesting ‘feud’ to see play out regardless. If anything, it indicates that Collins isn’t afraid of taking on a heel role in the eyes of his former fans with the Giants, who will likely disagree with his take.

New York Giants: Landon Collins Changes Answer On Playing Under Franchise Tag

New York Giants, Landon Collins

It looks like the New York Giants might not have been able to keep Landon Collins even if they had the desire to use the franchise tag on him. The team caught heat for not getting anything in return as Collins walked away from his spot as a defensive captain to cash in on a big deal with the Washington Redskins, but based on recent comments, it would have been a fruitless endeavor anyway to apply the franchise tag and keep Collins around for another year.

Collins changed his mind from last year and said that he would not have played under the franchise tag and would have held out for a new deal, while speaking to the Michael Kay Show. “No, I would not have played on it,” said Collins. That’s almost certainly something that factored into the decision for the Giants to move on from Collins.

It also looks like the move away from the Giants was always going to happen, as the team apparently didn’t work on a new deal for all of the 2018 season. “There was nothing being said throughout the whole season. And once that happens, you kind of get the [idea] that something is not going to happen. You’re not in the plans.”

The reasons why Collins is not in the plans anymore still remain to be seen, but based on the new deal that Collins signed with the Redskins, it looks like cost might have been a factor as well as scheme fit.

It is worth noting, though, that at some point Collins had a change of heart about the idea of playing under the franchise tag. Back during the 2018 season, he described it as not a big deal.

“Would I play on it? I’ve got no choice. But it’s not a big concern of mine. I know what I’m capable of. Hopefully we work something out before that. If not, the franchise it is. I’ve just got to continue proving myself,” Collins said back then. Obviously, something changed since then.

The Giants now have Jabrill Peppers and Antoine Bethea at the safety spot, which seems serviceable but still a downgrade from before. The change isn’t going to go down as a popular one, that’s already certain. But it looks like, unfortunately, things were always going to end up this way even if the Giants did have the desire to franchise tag Collins.

New York Giants: Landon Collins To Sign Huge Deal With Redskins

New York Giants, Landon Collins

It didn’t take long for Landon Collins to find another team after the New York Giants made the decision to not franchise tag him by the deadline, allowing him to become a free agent. The team also couldn’t reach a long-term deal and now, because of that, they’ll have to deal with Collins playing within their own division, the NFC East.

According to Ian Rapoport, it’s the Washington Redskins that have managed to sign the former Giants defensive captain. Collins has managed to get a massive deal for himself, with a total of six years and $84M. It’s strange to see considering Collins’ position, and if those are the kinds of numbers that Collins was looking for, it’s easy to understand why the Giants couldn’t reach an agreement for a long-term deal.

It was reported earlier in the week that the Giants couldn’t get more than a fourth round pick for Collins at the trade deadline, which is the reason why they attempted to come to a deal and instead ended up letting Collins walk away without getting anything in return.

Factors likely include the fact that Collins has struggled with injuries and only played in 12 games last season, as well as being injured at the back-end of last year, which would carry over into the 2018 season.

Still, the Giants will have to replace a player who did his job well against the run, and the Redskins defense gets a big addition. Even if the silver lining here for Giants fans is that the Redskins are overpaying Collins, which should hurt them when it comes to adding other additions.

And, regardless of whether or not you think the Giants should have kept Collins, there’s not many fans that will be happy to see him in a rival uniform.

New York Giants Couldn’t Get More Than 4th Round Pick For Landon Collins

New York Giants' Landon Collins

Most aren’t happy with the fact that the New York Giants let Landon Collins walk away for nothing, but some of the reasons why the controversial decision happened are starting to come out now that some time has passed since the final deadline for the Giants to apply the franchise tag to their star safety.

One of the biggest complaints was that the Giants could have traded Collins if they weren’t going to pay up to secure a long-term deal, but that argument was made by many without knowing what offers the Giants actually received. If a report from NJ.com is correct, then it seems that other teams valued Collins surprisingly low for a defensive captain of his caliber.

It was reported that the best offer that the Giants had received for Collins was a fourth round pick, which isn’t that great of a haul and would have been criticized at the time if the Giants did accept the deal and send away one of their best players for only that. Instead, the team kept Collins to see if they could agree to terms on a new deal following the deadline, but that new deal never happened and the team was left with no option but to lose Collins without getting anything back in return.

Interestingly, the Giants have a chance of getting a compensatory pick which could be higher than the fourth round one that was offered before the trade deadline, but there’s no certainty that they will get that pick and the third round draft pick likely won’t make up for the production that will be lost from letting one of the leading players on defense go.

Still, it’s good to see that there’s some justification behind the move. Even if the move isn’t any more popular because of it, it does show that the front office hasn’t gone mad.

New York Giants: Landon Collins Makes Official Goodbye To New York

In something of a baffling move, the New York Giants decided not to use the franchise tag on Landon Collins. It means that one of their best defensive players and the leading member of their secondary is going to become a free agent, and not only will the Giants lose Collins, but they won’t get anything for him. It might free up salary cap room for next season, but it’s unlikely that the team will be able to replace Collins’ production using that extra cash.

However, the deadline to use the franchise tag has passed and the matter is a done deal that Giants fans will have to live with regardless of what they think about the decision. There’s no turning back now, and Collins himself has taken to Twitter to say goodbye to the city and the team that drafted him all the way back in 2015.

Collins will leave the Giants as a fan favorite and will likely have a positive legacy with the team despite not playing as long as some of the other memorable Giants of the past. After all, the majority of fans wanted the team to sign Collins to a new deal, and at 25, Collins will go down in the record books as a player that left the Giants in his prime with plenty of things left to accomplish.

During four seasons with the team, Collins registered 428 tackles and 32 passes defended as well as 8 interceptions and, during the 2016 season, four sacks. His hard-hitting style and skill against the run is both something that will be remembered and something that’s hard to replace, and at the end of the day, most Giants fans will be asking one thing: why let a player like this go for nothing?

New York Giants: Why It Is Inexplicable, Inexcusable, and Incompetent To Not Franchise Tag Landon Collins

New York Giants, Landon Collins

On Monday afternoon, teams all around the NFL used their franchise tag on their best impending free agents, except for the New York Giants. The Texans used the non-exclusive franchise tag on Jadeveon Clowney, the Chiefs used the franchise tag on Dee Ford, and the Seahawks used the tag on Frank Clark.

All of these teams used the tag on their best defensive player. The deadline to use the franchise tag is March 5th at 4:00 p.m. A report by Ian Rapoport surfaced on Monday revealing that the New York Giants do not plan on using their franchise tag on their own best defensive player, strong safety Landon Collins.

Now, typically, I write my articles in a very objective way. I do not use the first-person narrative like I am right now, and I do not give my opinion. I usually just present the facts, rumors, and reports, then explain what it means for the Giants.

However, this is a special case. The Giants’ choosing to not use the franchise tag on Landon Collins has set the majority of the fanbase off into a feeling of vicious anger. It has also lead many fans to lose hope in general manager Dave Gettleman. So, allow me to be the voice of the people.

What Is The Franchise Tag?

Franchise tags are tools that allow NFL teams to keep would-be free agents for one year. The player’s guaranteed salary for that one season is attractive — the greater of the average of the top five salaries at his position, or 120 percent of his prior year’s salary — but such a tag provides the player no long-term security.

In 2019, the franchise tag’s price for the safety position is $11,150,000. Apparently, the Giants think that is too pricey for the best player on their defense. This is coming from the general manager who admitted his defense was terrible and vowed to improve it in the offseason.

Letting your best defensive player walk for nothing does not make your team better in any way. If the Giants do not think Collins is that talented of a player, they do not have to sign him to a long-term extension. In fact, it would be wise of them not to if they do not believe in him as a franchise player. But it would be the bare minimum for the Giants to place the franchise tag on Landon Collins.

Explaining The Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag:

There are three types of franchise tags. The non-exclusive franchise tag, the exclusive franchise tag, and the transition tag.

When a player is placed on the non-exclusive franchise tag, they have the opportunity to gain two first-round picks as compensation if the player leaves. The non-exclusive franchise tag allows other teams to make contract offers to Landon Collins and allows the Giants to match these offers if they so desire. If the Giants do not want to match the offer, Collins goes to the team whose offer he accepts and the Giants receive two first-round picks as compensation.

That is just one way for the Giants to receive compensation for Landon Collins. Collins has a reported trade value of a third-round pick. Prior to the 2018 trade deadline, the Giants shopped Collins in hopes of receiving a second-round pick. They were offered a third-round pick but declined the offer.

Why Using A Franchise Tag Is A No-Brainer:

If the Giants did not plan on keeping Landon Collins around in the future, why did they not accept the third-round pick at the trade deadline? What sense is there in letting a star player walk with nothing in return?

It is not too late for the Giants to get something in return for Collins. They could if they wanted to, but they are choosing not to. This is just inexplicable.

If the Giants want to move on from Collins, they should still place the franchise tag on him. When signed to a franchise tag, the Giants have the ability to trade Collins. Without a doubt, a team would trade for him. Offenses were scoring at a record-setting rate in 2018. Everyone is looking for help on defense (except for the Giants, for some reason).

Collins will have a “significant market” if he becomes an unrestricted free agent. Even if Landon did not become an unrestricted free agent, he would still have a huge market. A team would trade for him. The Giants could still get their third-round pick for Collins, which would be a huge addition considering they do not have a third-round pick in the 2019 NFL Draft.

Why Landon Collins Is Worth The Salary Cap Number:

Maybe Collins is not deserving of a long-term extension with about $11 million annually. That opinion could be validly argued. But when you look at the rest of the Giants’ roster, I can not figure out why they think this price is too high. Collins is a former all-pro safety. He is the most consistent player on the Giants’ defense. Yet he is not worthy of about $11 million.

However, Gettleman thinks Alec Ogletree is worth being the third-highest paid inside linebacker in the NFL. Gettleman is fine paying Ogletree $11,750,000 in 2019, but he cannot find the money to pay Landon Collins. Alec Ogletree was Pro Football Focus’s 81st ranked linebacker in the NFL in 2018 with an overall grade of 50.7. He was the second lowest graded player on the Giants in 2018, but he will make $11,750,000 next season.

Landon Collins was the third-highest graded player on the Giants’ defense in 2018 with a grade of 70.4. This overall grade is also much higher than the Giants’ highest-paid player in 2019.

Dave Gettleman’s Mismanagement Of The Salary Cap

Eli Manning is set to make $23,200,000 in 2019. He had an overall PFF grade of 64.3 in 2018, making him the 31st ranked quarterback in the NFL. There are only 32 teams in the NFL. Compare this to Collins’s third-highest defensive grade on the Giants, and lack of a contract with the team.

I love Eli Manning as much as the next guy, but Dave Gettleman cannot justify paying Manning that salary and yet whine that the franchise tag price for Collins is too high. Cutting the 38-year-old Eli Manning saves $17 million in cap space. At the very least, the Giants could negotiate Manning into a pay-cut to free some cap space. That is the missing money for Collins.

Believe me when I say this: Eli Manning is my favorite football player of all time and he is the reason I am a Giants fan. But this does not change the fact that his contract is hurting the rest of the Giants. Especially when they refuse to pay star players due to limited cap space.

Eli Manning is a franchise hero. But 21 passing touchdowns does not cut it in today’s NFL. Jerry Reese failed Manning. He was unable to build a solid roster around Eli when he was in his prime. This is a fact, however, that time is gone. Eli is not in his prime anymore. The Giants do not need to pay him like he is in his prime, especially if it means letting talented players walk out the door with nothing in return.

Cutting Eli Manning frees up $17 million. Releasing backup tight end Rhett Ellison frees up $3.25 million. Cutting edge rusher Olivier Vernon frees up $11.5 million. That is $31.75 million freed up right there to put the Giants at roughly $58 million which is more than enough to make moves while franchise tagging Landon Collins.

New York Giants: Should The Giants Trade For Chiefs’ Pass Rusher Dee Ford?

Beginning on February 19, NFL teams were officially allowed to apply the franchise and transition tags to impending free agents. The New York Giants have yet to place a tag on safety Landon Collins, but a few other teams have used their tags. The deadline to use the franchise tag is Tuesday, March 5th.

The Kansas City Chiefs officially placed the franchise tag on edge defender Dee Ford on Saturday, March 2nd. However, the Chiefs will be listening to trade offers for Ford. The Chiefs recently made a change in their defensive scheme, which is why they are willing to trade Ford.

Highlights From Dee Ford’s 2018 Season

Dee Ford is a 3-4 edge defender. He is a stand-up outside linebacker that is great at rushing the passer. In 2018, Ford had 13 sacks, 7 forced fumbles, and 55 tackles. He was Pro Football Focus’s 11th ranked edge defender with an overall grade of 87.7. He even earned PFF’s number 1 ranked pass-rush grade in 2018 with a grade of 91.0.

Why The Giants Might Want To Trade For Dee Ford

With the Giants having the 2nd least total sacks in the league in 2018, Ford could be a big upgrade off the edge. The Giants are reportedly shopping Pro Bowl edge rusher Olivier Vernon. If the Giants do not find a trade partner, they could cut Vernon to free up a large amount of cap space.

Regardless of wether the Giants trade or cut Vernon, they will still have a massive hole to fill at the edge position. Dee Ford could fill that hole.

Olivier Vernon was good in 2018, but has been inconsistent during his entire career with the Giants. In 3 seasons with the Giants, Vernon never reached 10 sacks in a single season. He has only done this once in his career. He had 11.5 sacks with the Dolphins in 2013. Ford has reached 10 sacks twice in his career. He had 13 in 2018 and 10 in 2016.

Former Giants general manager Jerry Reese signed Olivier Vernon to a massive contract back in 2016. Current Giants general manager Dave Gettleman inherited Vernon and his gargantuan contract last offseason. With Vernon not playing up to his contract, it makes sense Gettleman is considering moving on from the veteran.

An interesting scenario that could take place is a Vernon for Ford trade. Olivier Vernon played under the Chiefs’ current defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo when he was with the Giants. Spags helped Vernon have a career-year in 2016. This might lead the Chiefs to have a lot of interest in Vernon.

Vernon could go back to being a 4-3 defensive end for the Chiefs, while Dee Ford could continue his career as a 3-4 outside linebacker with the Giants. It would be a high-risk, high-reward trade for both teams. But if Spagnuolo can get the best out of Vernon in Kansas City, and Dee Ford can continue to progress his talents in New York, both teams could walk away from this trade very happy.

Why Dee Ford Is A Risky Player To Trade For

Dee Ford did have PFF’s highest pass-rush grade in 2018, but that grade came out of no where. In Ford’s first four seasons in the NFL, he was nowhere near as good as he was in his fifth season. Dee has been wildly inconsistent throughout his career.

In 2017, Ford dealt with a back injury. This forced him to play in only 6 games and total a measly 2 sacks. It took Ford 5 years to finally hit a real stride, then, once he did, his defensive coordinator was gone. Maybe a change of scenery will bode well for Dee. Or maybe he will regress back to his previous playing talent.

If the Giants trade for Ford, they will be hoping to progress his talents. The Giants have lacked a serious pass-rushing threat for years now. If Giants defensive coordinator James Bettcher can figure out a way to elevate Dee Ford’s talents, trading for him could be a brilliant move.